最強装備, Juggler
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23 By Kirihiko#30063 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Double leaders of these guys + a team of max skilled Sticker Girls and you're all set to go. 49x for so little effort... just... WHY??? EDIT: Whoever downvoted could at least have the decency to state why they think my post was incorrect. 7 x 7 from double leaders = 49x, Sticker Girls each turn 2 orb colors into hearts and at a minimum CD of 7 giving a steady supply of hearts to match. Where am I wrong here? Last edited by Kirihiko 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLm6UGvVPYA 2 of these and 4 pandoras. Too broken. 14 If you can play Ra then using this card is a piece of cake. There are so many cards that work with this leader's skills. Krishna's lead works by matching 3 sets and this lead is asking for 2 sets of hearts plus a set of attacking set of orbs, there are many Krishna players and they do fine. @Kirihiko, was kind enough to explain how sticker girls can be useful when max skilled. Thank you. @Yellow@Pf, is also correct it is "easiest activation with the highest payout". Pandora on the other hand also works, but those are just a few out of many which changes orbs into hearts. Nate, I usually don't like to call people out but I have been observing your posts and you display traits of distorted thinking based on clinical psychology. You always have to be "right", blaming others, personalization, overgeneralization, filtering, emotional reading, and fallacy of change. The reason I am even telling you this is that, I know as of right now, you do not like what you are reading. However, do you think the community likes to be ridiculed by your insults? Calling them ignorant just because they do not share your views? And please, don't even say you are debating, because have you ever admit you were wrong of miscalculated information, if not then are you a robot? In this case it is a misused term in this interpersonal relationship and you left no room for understanding another. If you didn't like what I have just described of you, please be kindly and not down talk others as if you are their superior. 9 nate so are you saying that matching two set of hearts is hard? Put a team of 5 fire orb enhance, put in one 3-tpa kagu, simply match 2 set of heart + 4 fire orbs, and you'll have 750k damage to 2 enemies. How is that hard? Where is the taken away damage you're talking about? This monster is simply broken. 3 nate, 1: the team you made up is even more luxurious than the 4 pandora team. and 2: if you want a Non-Rem team, here is two i made: Juggler, D/L Zeus, D/D Hera, D. Sprite, D. Sprite, Juggler. D. Sprite is basically pandora just weaker so she can work. All maxed leveled and all maxed awoken. With just a simple heart + heart + 3 dark, the total base damage will be 627985 . With a heart + heart + 4 dark, 1063409 as base damage. And if you want to make a row team, same thing only this time instead of D/L Zeus and D/D Hera, we instead use 2 D/D Tiamat. Again, max awoken and max level, with heart + heart + 4 dark because of 2 prongs, base damage will be 997120 with is still very impressive. Now with heart + heart + 1 Dark row, this will give us 1606900 which can be very devastation. Now, with the juggler to D. sprite active combo, you should be able to make at least a heart row + Heart row + 2 Dark row (+ 3 dark or 4 dark if possible), this will lead to a whopping 4820968 atk (7083870 if you matched an extra 3 dark, 7902764 if you match an extra 4 dark) and this is not even counting enchanted orbs, multiplied atk on lights, skyfall, etc. All of this damage with a non-rem team with no plus. This should convince you the power of this card. Here is calc i used if u don't believe me, ignore the 1857 in monstar part, it just a base. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IHD6qDSunUxPJFL4HtVzVGfBc2iLM-hXIrZmCVikzWY/edit#gid=47486721 Last edited by Ntut 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 3 Nate, don't try to justify your earlier behavior or explain yourself, you just fall more into that category. Of course you would not understand what I meant, you can learn about it during your own spare time. Based on what has occurred, the community has tried helped you understand their views on this card. Additionally, is that what it takes? People have to blast on you so you can get a clue? Then you have delusions of grandeur. People do acknowledge and take what you said in consideration but also voice their points, and they do not show it until they are more comfortable with it; and that does not make them all idiots? You didn't show any interest for this card until you saw more videos then does that make you equally or more of an idiot to begin with? Look I am not diagnosing you, honestly I do not care about you at all. I'm showing you that, as of now you do not like the fact you were violated in terms of me listing your supposedly psychological problems based on your words; so why curse out the community and then blame them for "ganging up on you" and make it seem like you are the victim. Your manipulation is game is weak, don't even start. 3 sani♡#14182 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) why use sticker girls when you can just use a team full of pandora? pandoras all up on first turn with max skill pandora active synergizes perfectly with juggler's 8 row enhances with 49x multiplier unbindable leaders 5 extra seconds of orb time giving a total of 9 seconds to match this guy was just made for whales Last edited by sani♡ 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 2 Oh really? Your rgy with it's 12.25 multiplier can match a 49x multiplier card? The L's of this card is literally match 2x hearts and 1x any other element and get 49x. To date, that's the easiest activation with the highest payout. The easy activation allows you to abuse thing like rows or tpas or any other such mechanic which you choose (rows obviously being the best choice). As for sub pool? Literally all you need is a heartmaker + other orb changer (and before you say that the fact that it needs some sub's is a weakness, just shush. Every team sans Anubis beads one or two types of cards. Orb changers being the main demand). You can sub in literally almost anything you want and it won't be bad. And that rgy/ Krishna team which you seem to believe can be on par with juggler probably had a near full rem team. And probably requires multiple actives to get near juggler's power (a video on YouTube has juggler doing 1 mill damage per sub off of 5 combos and one orb change). So why can't juggler have a full rem team? You seem to think that juggler sucks because his full potential needs a full rem team... Guess what, that can be said for almost every lead. You don't see anyone doing challenge 10 with a fully farmable team... 2 Challenge Dungeon lv9 clear, no REM subs http://blog-imgs-79.fc2.com/y/u/u/yuuoku/FxCDMVr.jpg 2 stfu 'guest' we all know you are nate's new account. i mean guest posting on the same day and exact same time with your reply right after? who are you fooling??? Of course Liao24 would explain it commonly especially if his audience may not know. He/shes right, like whats wrong with your mentality. Again with this slander. Just fuk off. 2 did you even read mine? I didn't talk about pandora at all on my post. I actually made a non -rem team just for u to see the power of this card. And since you want something about a full sticker girl team, the team can work, but it should be a team of kurone. this team can has potencial since which each kurone has a dark row so the team will have 4 rows in total. A problem is that you can't perfect skill combo with juggler, you will end up with grass orbs still. So you can take 1 kurone and replace here with Rem monsters (anubis and pandora) or Non-REM monsters (Cathy and D.sprite). So in all, a full team of sticker girls (preferably kurone) can work, but won't have the power as other teams. 1 I realize what you mean by the idealized teams like 4 pandoras that few people can achieve, but do keep in mind that the comparisons you mention "Hey why don't we just run dmeta dmeta dmeta hanzo and valk dmeta," and "just use LuBu ronia ronia ronia ronia LuBu peace of cake how is that hard?" are nowhere near as broken as juggler +4 pandoras. Specifically, on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9Z2MqkHiw at 0:25, when I saw just one skill used, one row, 3 combos, all on the first turn, and 2mil+ damage, I was already uneasy about Gungho releasing something so unfairly strong. Then, at 1:35, with a brainless 1 row +5 darks, the team did over 6million damage. Another reminder: no enhance, no boosted orbs. 80% skill bind resistance, leaders 100% bind resistance. I do not mean to be rude to you in any way, but I can say this: No, your RGY team cannot match this team's damage. Last edited by LastRemote 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 1 That is ultimate dragon rush. With two Hypermax juggler leads. Still that is a low IAP team with farmable subs doing end game content. Trying to balance the game A.J. (After juggler) will be hell. I think this is the beginning of the end. Its chaos in the Japanese community. 1 Oh woops, you're right. That's what I get for only paying attention to the thread title, I guess. Still makes me feel stupid for carefully planning running dragon rush with Minerva. 0 shut up nate.r.w, stop trying to be "right" all the time. 0 I do, 1 ready for the new ultimate and 3 sitting, collecting dust 0 i have four pandas. well, 7 actually :P 0 what are the subs for those teams? how are we comparing them? 0 I have four pandas (and still no ra...) 0 gauchito#28641 2 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) Or toy dragons. That's an almost guaranteed 7x indefinitely, for every 4/5 turns. Stall one, burn four. 0 Personally speaking, I'm at 3 Pandora and a Chibi. Just need Beach Pandora to finish the family tree. -1 This was made for people bored of trying to beat hard dungeons. -3 . Last edited by nathan@N17 2 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -10 This reply has been flagged as spam Show -40 nathan@N17#37737 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 16 By Carson#63493 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) NO OTHER LEADERS MATTER ANYMORE 0 Pandora is the perfect sub for a juggler team. If anything, her uvo will be used as a sub for juggler if a person obtains both. 0 {sweatdrop} Competition as a leader, I meant... 0 Dawn#72866 2 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) The only thing keeping me from complaining about how broken things are getting is that this game isnt a pvp game. -2 Skyknight#11392 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Don't be so sure. Notice that Juggler does nothing for HP or RCV. Some of us are defense-minded enough to care about those, in case we fumble at the very least. Meanwhile, I understand Pandora's ultimate is giving Juggler some very stiff competition. For starters, no real time limit to acquire her. Also, having two dark row awakenings helps the damage output more than a single enhancement awakening. Last edited by Skyknight 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 11 By M#19638 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) In this thread: contrarians resorting to "use anubis" because they have no other argument against this OP thing In a few weeks it will be "why do you use no-skill trash, use real monsters", see also SOD Luci, Ronia, etc. 6 Anubis doesn't put out the damage this guy puts out. This guy has x49 and access to rows. Anubis only has combos. On a normal board if you are lucky enough to get x100 at most your subs will do 1~1.5 million. If you use actives with your Anubis the damage per sub is 2~3 million. Keep in mind you need to get perfect 10 combo board to do Anubis full potential. Juggler does 2million damage per sub with a single row and 5 combos. If you chain actives and get a perfect 3 row board with juggler you do 5mil damage per sub. Juggler out damages every single lead in this game except a 13+ skyfall double D/D Anubis. Anything 11 combos or more is pure luck ( there are only 10 combos possible on a perfect board) What makes juggler even more game breaking is that he works with absolute garbage cards. People are posting videos and screen shots of Dark fairy teams beating Grand Fking Sonia WTF?! There is no way normal person can consistently clear end game content with D/D Anubis with garbage subs. He can out damage 800$ teams with 5$~60$ teams. He undermines every lead in this game. When they get around to balancing content around him this game will be broken. 4 You wanna hear something harsh Nate? How about $-7-F-U!! How da fcqk you gon' say Anubis is easy to use compared to this card? Are you on some L.S.D. my dude or are you using some easy combo app to help you with that $HlT. You be on every page slandering ppl like you the $HlT. Take a seat home boy, you ain't special even Jerry@LL's aunt knows. 2 Your arguing "anubis vs this card" when the real argument is "this guy is unbalanced". This isnt about anubis, its about how unbalanced this card is. Basically, yes anubis is a better leader but to the AVERAGE player, he is too hard (so in other words, balanced). Its pretty much a consensus that he's hard to use. Obviously it varies but the majority agree. On the other hand, this card is seen as "easy to use" therefore unbalanced. Seems way easier than ra but I cant say for certain without knowing this guys activation rate per board. It is obvious that it should probably have a much higher activation rate than ra thus making it unbalanced but again, not sure by how much. Your basically arguing against a consensus. If you can use anubis consistently, than its a given that you should just stick with him but other people cant. So basically. Good skill=use anubis Normal skill= this card And ra is approximately at a level for "normal skill" while this card is even easier to activate than ra. People see it as broken because this card, even with farmable subs, dwarfs most to all leaders in the game all while being very feasible to activate and thats just with farmable subs. Last edited by yt 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 1 1) anubis needs 9 combos for 7x while this guy basically needs 3. 2) every leader needs at least a few rem cards to be good. 3) ease of a leader skill DOES give it more value. Example: let's say anubis has the same leader skill except that now you need 20 combos to get any benefit. Makes it less valuable right? All this guy needs is a couple of orb changers (you basically get 2 orb changers for free) and maybe an athena for example. Also, even if this guy isnt better than anubis (you would basically need to consistently do 10 combos for anubis to be better but for that you need to rely on skydrops), you have to at least see that this card is better than basically all other cards when comparing leader skills. He basically dwarfs every leader in terms of ease and damage output. 0 yt is correctly! nate has no idea what he is talking about. OKay nate you say its not that hard. Instead of slandering ppl why dont you upload a video on helping ppl maybe you'll get a fuking BJ too. B1itch Azz sits behind a screen and don't do sh1it but brags on how great he is. Last edited by ChaosS 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 0 Well i mean ranked wise against other leaders 0 Do you have the link to sonia gran video? I'd like to see it before i say something......even though I've seen videos of just robin and anubis (literally just a 2 man team) beat dungeons. Can jugg do that? I'll at least settle with him and anubis being the king. Because jugg needs actives just as much as anubis right? Majority of the time a board change is instant knockout. Jugg can get orb trolled just as likely. Any board change can be less than ideal 0 Where would I put kush? Well if I had her I guess in a zhuge liang team or maybe an alt for a kirin team. 0 Its a fake picture. I found that out after I posted that comment. Someone wanted to make my blood boil more. I was pretty angry at myself when I believed it. 0 Not really sure. I don't really see kush as strong as okuninushi, bastet, or the chinese cards so maybe as a leader she's around low/mid tier 2. -1 Off topic but it's an interesting question, where would you place kushinada? -1 Ha that's funny. I just seen this post. Even though my first comment wasn't anything about me being good or about slandering people. All that started after you guys jumped in. Sit behind a computer? Alright so then come to ohio. I'm not hiding, I'm not talking trash. I'm just tired of people complaining anubis is hard. You'd think after enough time you would be able to use him but pathetically enough people can't. They just want to complain and look for the easy route. Probably meaning most don't do enough to get a decent job. they just want to come in acting stupid after they read my rebuttal comment and not the original. If you really think you are something you can find me in ohio, north america. That is if your mom gives you permission. What else do you need? Are you wanting a picture of my paycheck as well? You are such a joke chaos. Just jumping in trying to take advantage of the situation. I haven't tried to be a hardass like the show you are putting on but yet you want to tell me how I'm sooo mean to people. Lol grow up and get some skin. If being called dumb REALLY bothers you that much, that's pretty fragile. -2 Juggler lead and friend clearing Athena descended by themselves: http://imgur.com/P7dhQhX -2 Lol b!tch please. Even the other guy pointed out that Jerry's aunt knows you ain't the sh!t you think you are. Get off your high horse of "omg 8 combos is easy (lol, you're comparing 4x to 7x; let's not even talk about 10 combos) you noobs" and sit down. Go and talk to Jerry's aunt so she'll buy you enough magic stones to roll this OP dude. -3 nathan@N17#37737 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Honestly that can be reversed, you revert to this because you can't activate anubis because he's too "hard". Bring on the downvotes because i said something so harsh -5 All that says to me is you will take whatever is easier. Activating anubis is seriously not that hard. Literally almost every board contains about 8 combos without having to use an active. More often you WILL have to use an active for this guy and based off all these videos everybody keeps using as examples is with unrealistic 297 teams, obviously they put off so much damage (so does any other crazy maxed 297 team) but most people will not have those. You can see videos of literally just anubis and one or two other cards trashing dungeons, can this guy do that? No. So the power still resides in anubis -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show 11 By Yellow@Pf#13595 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Here you go nate... http://i.imgur.com/fl28W5T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nN3udGb.jpg not OP at all. You know, a team of full gold keepers clearing TEC and another farmable team too... not OP at all.... Last edited by Yellow@Pf 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 4 Lol Gonna put this in quotes incase he deletes his post "And again...anubis can do it with less subs AND no x3 spike. Best lead? No i still don't think so. ESPECIALLY since it's just a picture. Now if i seen a video then i would feel otherwise" Sonyour argument is that Anubis can clear it with less sub's. Well guess what, Anubis can clear everything, that doesn't make juggler any weaker. Hell, if that's your argument that means every other lead sucks, why? Cause Anubis can clear everything. With less subs no less. *scarcasm. Honestly, the number of people who can activate Anubis on one hand probably number in the low hundreds. Compared to the millions who play this game. How many people can make 3 combos to activa ejuggler? I'm pretty sure millions of people can. Sure, Anubis can clear everything, but he's also the hardest lead to use in the game. Juggler is one of the easiest, and has one of the highest multipliers in the game. You can't really compare them. It's like comparing a lethal weapon that takes ages of training to use to a quick easy to use almost as lethal, much more consistent other weapon. 1 kadian1365#38354 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Has someone cleared TEC with Jugglers and 2nd tier slimes yet? Because it's probably possible IMO. 0 whoever said juggler made everything else obsolete? go quote every post I have on this page. Not one line do I say obsolete, or do I say anything else is weaker 'cause of juggler. I'm sorry, maybe you were confused by the internet slang I used. OP=over powered. Something that is overpowered is strong, really strong. Stronger than the rest of the stuff. OP does not mean other cards are obsolete OP does not mean kirin, krishna, pandora, etc. are weak. OP does mean that juggler is strong, like really strong. Go on, go look through my posts, I wont edit them. -8 This reply has been flagged as spam Show 9 By Reiness#51367 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) The worst part is, Gungtroll can't even nerf this OP card, or they will face the collective might of the whales who rolled hard for this card. They could refund all the rolls made, but I doubt it will happen. The only solution is of course more power creep, and make other future cards as powerful as this one, trivializing most existing content. Good strategy in the short run but not a good one for the long haul IMO 1 They are making content harder like graniia and new zeus/hera, and I never heard gungho nerf anyone yet. They will probably buff everyone else instead of nerfing. They are definitely prepping monster for future cases. Gungho just making people paying for the current stuff and then more op...monster. Then 100x leader pair for something easy will appear eventually. 1 PoyBoy#55172 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Only a few days after I said this, we got a news about buffing the ONE TRUE GOD. I just knew it that, they would balance Anubis to Juggler. They can't just nerf someone who people probably spend tons of money to get Juggler in the collab. 0 Orochi was nerfed way back in the day, his skill turns used to be lower by 5. Honestly I think he should get back to 20/15 now though. 0 a long time ago they nerfed the mastering orb change active skill from max CD 5 to 6 because it could be used unlimitedly. -2 hoyun#46915 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) they will have to do it even though it means lost of lots of money in refunds, because this is for the health of the game. I mean why would I roll the REM again when I got this card? All fun and challenges will be lost when you can clear everything with 3 combos. 5 By Rookie#12395 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) JP official Said: "Lot of players have expressed opinions and concerns on Jugglers LS. The reason why we implemented Juggler was because we thought it would be something fresh, new and interesting, and we stand by our thoughts. Juggler's LS is not the only powerful LS currently in-game. We do not think it's OP because factors such as team composition and orbs on the board can easily affect Juggler's performance. Consistently activating juggler's LS still has it's difficulties and requires skill and preparation." And here comes the best part "And considering future updates, future dungeons and future monsters, it is apparent that Juggler's LS will have little to no affect on the balance of the game in the long term." We might potential get MORE monster like Juggler. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing tho. Last edited by Rookie 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 3 Greg!#39904 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Either that, or all upcoming dungeons will be NO RCV dungeons lolololololo GungTroll wakokokokokok 2 mccool37#4389 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) So basically they are admitting that this game is going into full power creep mode from here on out. 0 foxwaffles#54418 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) What sucks the most seeing stupid trash cards like this is the sad acceptance of the fact many of my favorite and only leaders (since I'm non IAP) will never ever be useful again. Suzaku and Karin and Metatron are my only leaders. The only use able one now is Metatron. And it gets boring using her over and over. I want to use Suzaku, one of my first ever cards, on a descend for a change. I want the Chinese celestials to be at the forefront again. But with the juggler AND all these new special gods with 6x attack for the same condition Gungho should be ashamed of themselves for having such a sudden, dramatic power creep. This is just foolish. Egyptian 2.0 was pretty awesome and fresh and so was Indian 2.0. But this?? And those new special gods released today?? Ugh. 0 Skyknight#11392 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Could be a reference to the upcoming Awoken Neteru and Devas. It looks like Awoken Lakshmi will be coming up very soon, so we can extrapolate from her. At least, the other Awoken Devas. 0 Assuming the power creep curve will stay consistent. Maybe after the new Awoken, it will level out to a more gentle slope again? 0 Greg!#39904 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I trust them on this. GungHo ALWAYS delivers, whether or not they decide to change their mind and nerf it in the future. I'm sure they have more tricks up their sleeve that'll make up for it. I don't know about you guys, but I'm freaking STOKED. 0 *NEWS* 4 new JP monsters just released, almost as OP as juggler. They are meant to be GF exclusive 1. 1 Heart combo 2x ATK, 2 Heart combos 6x ATK. 2. Increase ATK when 3 consecutive heart orbs are matched, damage increases with the number of consecutive heart orbs matched up to 6x. (Similar to hero gods) 3. 3x ATK when fire, fire, light/ fire, light, light combos are matched. 6x ATK when fire, fire, light, light combos are matched. 4. 3x ATK when wood, wood, dark/ wood, dark, dark combos are matched. 6x ATK when wood, wood, dark, dark combos are matched. I'm super hyped! But does this also mean this new generation of God will be taking over the PAD universe? 0 Two Hyper Jugglers can't take Dios's 14000 preemptive. 0 Only 1 and 2 come close because they both take the same amount of orbs and the same or less combos. 3 and 4 need at least 4 combos and 12 orbs to get near juggler's multiplier. But that said, these are all Godfest exclusives, juggler is a collab REM monster meaning he's much easier to get. 4 By Simon#50967 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) The New Tyrant rises.... 0 Skyknight#11392 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) What's it going to take to have a forever Tyrant-less metagame? First Seraph Lucifer, then Red Sonia, now Juggler... 4 By James#58868 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=69628&pid=868023#pid868023 now, i you'll see here, it wasn't just Gungho that ust blatantly decided to make this card, it was also the input from some high up guy from Square Enix. He deliberately made it "slightly" strong in his opinion. Note he has gotten death threats on his twitter for this. 2 PewDeePew#62713 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) oh god, a square enix guy is getting death threat from upping the power creep. that is just weird. o.O 2 Skyknight#11392 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) ...Only "slightly"? I'd hate to see what his definition of "overpowered" is, if *49 ATK isn't sufficient. An easy-to-activate *100? Or maybe he thinks he's doing GungHo a favor by giving them a supreme chase rare. Might also be an attempt at sneak advertising. If you see Juggler all the time, it's more visibility for Crystal Defenders... 0 Just to let you know, this guy doesn't even know what row enhancements are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YF6NywsjTQ Check it. This is the idiot from Square Enix responsible for "balancing" FF/FFCD collab content. 0 Well, given the outcry, I sense GungHo doing its own retroactive rebalancing of Catch. I'm guessing he was banking on the fact that the average starting field will have just five heal orbs (30/6), without taking actives (and skill awakenings) into account. EDIT: Only it turns out that this could put GungHo in breach of contract with Square--they apparently have to accept the Crystal Defenders critters as is. Now add in Hata intentionally making Juggler as strong as he could without breaking the game...or so he thought, anyway. Now I'm all but convinced his main concern was ensuring Crystal Defenders visibility by making Juggler a certain appearance on ally lists. One begins to worry what the Final Fantasy collaboration will look like, if this really was Hata's idea of strongest possible without game-breaking. Will it be between Juggler and the Dragon Ball characters? {sigh} New idea for minimizing Juggler's damage--make a few new descents that preclude duplicates, like Sandalphon's. Hard to get a *49 when you can only have one Juggler (at least, I think it prevents you having both the basal and evolved versions, too). EDIT THE SECOND: The PAD Forum has a second opinion about that video--Hata was intentionally playing as weakly as possible while still being able to clock the dungeons. It's rather unlikely that he would fail to form a row even by accident... Last edited by Skyknight 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 0 Actually if you look just before he enters the dungeon when the team slides away you'll see they are all awakened fully. -1 ya do realize that vid was made a bit before awakenings came out, right. i could be wrong, but another factor could be he didnt have any awakenings on that team, because it was still only or month or 2 into awakenings. If im not mistaken , awakenings came out around early 2014, which is exactly what timeframe this vid was put out. Now, im not defending this idiot for juggler, but i wont barrage him with hate for this vid. 3 By Low#40854 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Sometimes I get jealous about some of the cool stuff JP only players can get, but in this case I'm glad NA will probably not see Crystal Defenders. The fact that Gungho refuses to admit this card is broken and shouldnt have given balance control to someone who clearly knows nothing about the game is a prideful tragedy. How can a card that almost immediately puts Mythical dungeons as an easy clear for first pull players not be considered OP? And the fact they refused to nerf it afterward is also BS. I get annoyed in NA by how many players spam Ronia and LuBu teams for every dungeon likes it is an actual strategy at this point. This, however, is a whole next level bad. Please never let this be available to poison honest players who have been grinding out good teams by +egging and old school skill upping. I'm proud of where I am after a little over a year by getting my @$$ handed to me by dungeons I wasnt good enough to clear and had no business trying until I was better at orb matching and leveled up my cards. This is power creeping garbage of the highest caliber. STAY AWAY. 1 Vincent#41797 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) why do people say cards are broken someone said to me that XQ was broken but it didnt make any sense 1 Victor#65959 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I doubt ANY country will ever see this collar besides JP. GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY YOU DOLLS -2 James#58868 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) While i have to say all your points are true, there are something that are not possible. One, its illegal to nerf a card that people already "bought". Ronia and LuBu is cancer for sure, but its not really just NA, jap uses them excessively too. have you seen their PC godfest line ups, Ronia is always in the top 3 consistently. If juggler says anything, its that Future leads are bound to no doubt going to get the same treatment he has gotten, if Juggler is a test run to see if something like this is broken, they it wouldn't make sense not to scale monsters to its power level. The PAD community already has estimated Horus's new awakenings will put him in the range of a 74-98x multiplier as long as you can fulfill the requirements for the awakening's activations.(while is relatively easy actually for 2/3 of them). Perhaps every other cards will get similar treatment like Horus will be getting, in that case they will probably trump Juggler in time. 2 By dcdfvr#36179 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) So I just use this with 4 pandora ultis. Make 1-2 dark rows with x49 and win the game yes 2 By Klept2#59047 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) It's ok it's a .0001 REM roll 1 I wanted a D/D batman for draggie. my batman pulls? D/W batman D/L batman robin catgirl catgirl robin in that order. it's not about gold/ not gold, it's about what you are rolling for, lol 0 John#60545 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) If collab gold egg rates are 10%, and there's 4 possible gold eggs from the FF collab machine, your chance should be 2.5% or .025 But everyone knows the real chance for gold eggs is 0%! :P 0 All 3 Batmans in 5 pulls. Honestly I wish my luck transferred to a different REM 2 By Greg!#39904 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Just a funny thought... GungHo says this card isn't OP, and that it won't affect the balancing of the game in future updates. Future updates include: No RCV dungeons 2 By Herobyte#60180 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) No traveller returns, puzzles the will And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; 1 By Goran#58462 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Isnt that leader skill a bit OP? O.o 1 latte @/r#43317 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Its potential damage output is absolutely fudging insane. The LS is very active skill reliant, but it seems like it could clear an insane amount of content. 0 Chaore#2471 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) It's theoretically balanced- before actives or with the wrong team, you've got a huge need for the right orb drops and you're only using one attacking combo normally. At the same time, basically everything else about them makes up for it and they combo absurdly well with pandora. It's not super reliable, but not many of the x7 options really are when it comes down to it, and they're a lot easier to use. tldr; Balanced in theory but absurdly strong in practice with the right team. 1 By Sebcas#65460 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) OMG! If this guy is too overpowered, then just don't use him. 1 By Kerry#45328 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) pandora would be perfect with this guy. If you use their actives in conjunction you get a full board of dark and heart O_O. 1 By changsy#49100 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm_yYpeP6iA How two Pandora with this guy break level 10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiOLHKxDXeQ and break "ultimate endless corridor." Big fight in Japan asking to nerf this guy lol 1 By ELam#3168 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) On my main, I have 297+ kush, both ult evo'd ra's, U&Y, all of whom are max skilled and close to max leveled. On my alt I have a 297+ anubis max leveled. I have zero-stoned almost every dungeon so gungho has put forward (the level 10 challenge dungeons being the only dungeons where I did not zero-stone). Needless to say, all of that is going to be useless and I'm going to be rolling hard and hoping to roll this card. Sure, in terms of absolute firepower and skill my original teams will still be amazing, but simply factoring in the ease of activating a 7x LS makes the decision a no-brainer. But what am I saying, this card likely will not come to the NA servers so I'm going to keep trucking along, setting up my boards, and hoping for the lucky sky drops to activate anubis and kush. Last edited by ELam 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 1 By Tony#37833 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Woah, so much talk for this guy. I can see why, he's unbindable and you deal damage beyond from matching 2 silly sets of heart orbs (Squares). He has his own skill up, so badpys or dupes aren't required and plus eggs would make him godly as a leader his base attack is ridiculous for a tremendous spike leader. If you truly want to one shot something without worry, bring King Baddie or Lu Bu and watch the enemy die (if there is no absorb). He heavily relies on heart makers and that's not hard to come by. Man, if I really think about it, he can probably help you beat any dungeon as long as you have the hp and defense active to take on one-shots and heart makers. Silly heart orbs appear in almost any dungeon, so you can go into tricolors as well and be victorious. No RCV would require lots of quick heart makers and you can probably beat the dungeon with some trouble conserving heart orbs. 1 By Sean#41606 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I wonder if GungHo will find a loophole around this by making new restrictions like [no collab] or [no <20 cost] for future descends. Those are two really easy solutions I can think of for this card, but obviously the [no collab] would probably hurt their business a little. 0 TFactorial#3267 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Sounds like something a King David descend would have (and, if possible, use your team's cost & rarity against you). 1 By Amy#57626 2 years ago ( 7.5 ) I think this guy is like the golden ticket in Willy Wonka. Only a hand full of people will snag him. I think this guy is meant to fish in lots of cash with the hopes of getting him.Honestly I wouldn't even try to pull him because he takes the fun and challenge out of the game. 1 By bigbuff#41678 2 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) Oh! The arguments on this page 😂 and here's what cracks me up the most, this is a single player game! 😂😂😂 it's like getting offended because someone told me I'm playing skyrim wrong or some shjt 😐😂 everyone needs to chill. Hey, Nate r.w. may be a critic, but that's that. Take it or ignore it. I've seen some legitimate posts being down voted over some type of vendettas. Can't we all, just get along. ✌ happy gaming y'all. P.s. I agree. This card is broken. 7x to just match sets of hearts is crazy! Even with just a 3x atk plus hp or rcv boost friend you're looking at 21x. Go in with heart makers and a couple of physicals so you don't get trashed in just one hit. I'm thinking blodin. The possibilities are just crazy! 😃 Last edited by bigbuff 2 years ago ( 7.5.1 ) 0 Etherious#78562 2 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) But the new descends like Sha wujing and Sphinx, they have absorbs over 200k or resolves who kill you if they get too low.Sha wujing has very little health and if you do too much damage, he'll kill you. The same way, Awoken Sopdet will blast you to oblivion in 4 turns and she has a damage shield of 200 k. Since you play juggler mono colored, it's typically either broken damage or no damage. 1 By -Zer0-#72697 2 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) Guys, haven't you noticed? We got our own Juggler here in the NA! His name is Gadius! Although it might be a 6x, it's better than nothing :) 1 By Carson#63493 2 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) Wow, the meta has changed so much that Juggler's pretty much a non-factor now. 0 By ふたなり（０３０）#68541 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) if humanity has dignity don't have to use this monster.. 0 -Zer0-#72697 2 years ago ( 7.5 ) Trust me, i wont even have the luck to get it. Plus, having friends with them is like probably SUPER rare. 0 By 5)(0UK0N#35202 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I was thinking that all the normal dungeons, tech dungeons and descends so far, are all "chapter one" dungeons. Then, there will be "chapter 2" dungeons, a whole new set of normal, technical and descended dungeons (may not necessarily involve new monsters), which are all a great deal harder than "chapter one" dungeons. Then, to deal with these new and difficult dungeons, all monsters can undergo "rebirth" evolution. For example, 3* --> 4* --> 5* --> R3*--> R4* --> R5*, "R" stands for "Reborn". "Reborn" monsters are, in general, a great deal stronger than their previous selves, with LS boost and stat boost and so. But somehow it seems that Juggler's rebirth upgrade is not as significant as all other monsters, thus balancing the game... ... or so I hope (?) Last edited by 5)(0UK0N 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 0 5)(0UK0N#35202 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Seeing that I have been downvoted, I do realize that my suggestion is too unrealistic. Or, if it is about my saying that Juggler is overpowered, please enlighten me if I have overlooked its weakness, and how does it not being unfair to leaders such as Ra and Sarasvati. (I do not hold any grudge against Juggler though, I like all these characters since I played FFTA and FFTA2.) Last edited by 5)(0UK0N 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 0 By Alais#25792 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) With both versions of Wee Jas do you just destroy the very fabric of time and space by using the power of love? 0 By 발키리@HG#36078 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) The arguement that you are using non attacking orbs is moot If going mono dark. And it would not be hard with this guy if you have 2 Pandoras. 2 pandoras, hanzo and kurone for example. 49x atk with 6 row enhance with an extremely easy to activate skill sounds op to me. Imagine the ideal team of 4 pandora subs. 8 rows, 8 skill boosts, 6 time extensions, 4 actives that make dark amd heart orbs that work perfectly with the leaders' board change. Guarenteed 2 rows can be made With a 4 combo minimum. 49(LS) x1.75(combos) × 2.6(1.6 +1 for row enhance) x 2(1.75)(2 sets of dark rows)= 780.325 0 By CorbelSA#29613 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Does Gungho understand how its own game works? Hopefully this never comes to the US, keep that broken completely unbalanced crap over in Japan. Otherwise this completely invalidates every other monster in the game and makes the rest of the game entirely pointless. 0 New monster LS:if you match 3 heart combos, *15 atk. Active Skill: spawn 9 hearts -1 Stephen#5637 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) They've probably got more "broken" monsters in store for the next pantheon or the next set of ultimates. The game's constantly changing all the time. What seems broken now will seem like just a stepping stone in the future. 0 By Jerry#28037 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Could be a viable sub for Genbu? But if you actually have this guy I guess Genbu wouldn't really matter. ALL HAIL THE ONE TRUE GOD 0 By SoulWiz#49209 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) There was a time when we thought that VEGETA was OP Collab leader...how fast time passes -_- Made with Pandora subs in mind... and oh, this is devil too -_- incoming Ronia/Lubu/Beelze for Leader versatility... just need +6 heart orbs for L/F X49... meaning theoretically you can fill rest of the orbs with Dark Orb/Rows... and blow up everything else.. already videos with +297 Jugglers + pandora subs beating everything out... 0 By Rookie#12395 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) What the actual F**K? 2 Heart Combos and you get 49x attack?! 2 F**KING COMBOS? (Actually 2 heart combos and at least one more color combo to do any real damage, BUT STILL) And people call dark Kali OP. 0 By Freeze#56959 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) What about using this as a U&Y sub in combination with a Blue Valk (or even Bard Robin)? 3 PoyBoy#55172 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Why would you even bother with U&Y when this monster is easier to activate and deal more damage 0 By logia#34469 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Bro, do you even Juggle? Last edited by logia 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 0 By ps4 user#65932 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) if you have pandora you can make an op team i mean this guy leader pandora her skill is change orbs to heart and dark so you can make a good dark spike team with him P.S. try to get a friend with him once you have him so use the dark spike team 49.00X attack :) dyeing aint nobody got time for that 0 By nootnoot#63617 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Yeah, having a Juggler would be pretty awesome, but I assume it will get boring after awhile, so I won't roll for him. Never fun perpetually on easy mode. I feel bad for YamaP though, considering he has to deal with all this drama. 0 By Dominic#16134 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I see all these haters going at the juggler's jugular but what's Jerry got to say about all this? 0 By purin#44176 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) what a mess... and they aren't going to be nerfing him after all it seems. smfh 0 By buttz#56328 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) lmao gungho just made an announcement: they said it isnt unbalanced and wont nerf it. 0 By Greg!#39904 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Get this: • Only Rank 62 in JP account • Maximum cost of 68 • Been running chibi Lucifer lead (cost 40) • Subs are only Dark Evo and Enhance Materials (was able to fit in unevolved Pandora soon) • Craploads of Juggler friends (unevolved) • Already at Mars Crater, simply using this team (team grows as I level up quickly) Things are MUCH easier in Japan with this guy around. TOO easy. I remember not being able to reach Starlight Sanctuary until past Rank 100 with my NA account. A part of me wants this to come to NA, but majority of me wishes that it won't see the light of day. It's game-breaking. 0 By -Zer0-#72697 2 years ago ( 7.5 ) Dang, there is so much controversy over this monster... But eh, i cant blame em' 0 By Miku H.#74661 2 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) Weeps. This pain is like the bite of Senpai not noticing me, the fork is this creature? Also, Nathan, i can't decide whether you want downvoted or not, so for now I'll leave it alone. 0 By Phantasma#45970 2 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) Just pulled my 4th Pandora on JP! ^_^ Guess what I'm missing...yup...Juggler. Typhon will have to suffice. 0 By BabaMotte#57443 1 year ago ( 8.4.1 ) needs uevo please with 3 dark rows.. :) Last edited by BabaMotte 1 year ago ( 8.4.1 ) 0 By Bestcat!#80624 1 year ago ( 8.4.1 ) Meta Changes this guy is irrelevant now until he gets a uevo or buff 0 By Autum#75747 1 year ago ( 8.6.2 ) With a leader skill like that... I expected 69 as the cost. Last edited by Autum 1 year ago ( 8.6.2 ) -1 By Squirtlove#55936 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Dear Gungho, What in the world were you thinking? Sincerely, Everyone that's spent hours and hours building the perfect team only to be rendered obsolete by one card. 0 Skyknight#11392 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) You're sure we'll never see descent bosses that can weather a *49 attack? 0 Funny how you mention 49x because juggler does not work with 49x when you factor in things like orb changers, rows and enhanced orbs. Juggler is broken beyond repair because all he needs are 2 sets of heal orbs, this leaves you with 24 other orbs to attack with. Just imagine this: Juggler/ult pandora/D/R luci/lu bu/ult pandora/juggler Use jugglers active, use pandora (this gives a board full of dark and heart orbs, in the best case scenario you get 12 heart orbs and 18 dark orbs, giving you 3 rows), use luci to enhance the 18 dark orbs and use lu bu. I can't do the math for you but just take this from me, there is no boss in in PAD that can take such a beating. very rough estimate: 7x7x3x1.75x1.30x1.70x2x2.5= 2842x attack. 7x7 = jesters leader skill 3x1.75x1.30x1.70 = three dark rows that are enhanced 2x = 5 combo's 2.5x = lu bu active Now take jugglers insane base attack of 1.9k and we are talking about 5.4 million damage per juggler. 10.8 million damage on two jugglers. There is no monster in pad with more than 7 million health so thats why he is horribly broken. This guy doesn't need recovery nor hp when he can dish out this kind of damage. -1 By Stamrat@PG#30993 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) seems to make a nice genbu sub, don't see much use for it otherwise... could also work with apocalypse i guess Last edited by Stamrat@PG 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) -1 By Dan#67995 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) As someone who is very mediocre at this game, I would pay so much to pull one of these. I know, it's a problem. -1 By nturtle#21208 1 year ago ( 8.6.2 ) So today they announced this little fukboi is getting an Ulti Evo. If that garbage ever comes to NA I'm done with PAD. -2 By Bungholio#43272 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Wow people are such complainer s leave Nate alone and get on with your lives omg people get over it -2 By -Zer0-#72697 2 years ago ( 7.5 ) Oh and nate? Just saying, anubis vs juggler is like chuck norris vs bruce lee. But you know, bruce being the juggler and chuck being anubis. One important fact is that they are both freaking beast of monsters. Although i think it is harder to activate anubis. Just saying in my opnion. :/ -2 By Mr-ex777#91897 12 months ago ( 9.0.3 ) I can't find a place to place this thing here, so i placed it here, despite i doubt many people will ever see it. I have been a friend of Puzzle and Dragons for a long time. But one day, amongst Puzzle and Dragons latest CD event, i saw it. the beginning of the end. There was a card that was so broken, that it make all of the cards the matter of the past. And it was not an original creation, it was created by Square enix. A true abomination that can only be described as an conspiracy to end. Then at first i was not convinced that PAD is about to end. then i saw the new "Awoken Gods". Any one of them can go to 25x, 36x, 100x and even 400x. I still was not considering this is the end. Then there came Sphinx Descended, and it bought Awoken Sopdet as an enemy and the dungeon was virtually impossible with most teams because Sopdet just abosrbed everything we throwed at her and killed us after 4 turns, and there was nothing that we can do with it. Then there was the Journey to the West which gave me Xa wuzheng, a useless character that literally gives us the chills by having insanely low HP and when we killed it, it survives at 1 hp and kills us instantly. Then there was the rat Ilsix and his lackey Starling which was so hard that nothing can beat it. Then i also saw the MP store and in there, there were endless amounts of game breaking abominations and everything else seems to be serving them or sold for MP. From this point on most of the players had left PAD. And i realized: This is the beginning of the end. And things get even worse as every descended dungeon brings nothing but materials, every challenge dungeon recycles the same roster of enemies, and the Festival Gachas were everywhere. But at one point; Everything collapsed. There was one day i went to niconico and watched a stream with Machine Zeus Descended. The dungeon was so insanely hard that it's literally a stone eating contest and it was unanimously considered the worst. That time i say: Give up. This is it. But i did not. Then Pad radar happened and it did not help at all, AS and LS becomes the same type of stuff over and over, and then stuff like FGO and shadowverse had arisen above pad. Now, the breaking point, is the time attack last week (Which happened not far away after Pokemon Go!'s release). It was so absurdly bad, that the majority of players left, and i finally realized this place, once the greatest place ever, will quickly be no more. And i finally came to a conclusion. "THIS IS THE DEAD END. THERE WILL BE NO RETURN." Last edited by Mr-ex777 12 months ago ( 9.0.3 ) -5 By Oscion#33256 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) I dont understand something, why do ppl say "OP" when you're not playing against each other?? I mean why is ANYONE complaining how good a monster is, what, you want them to scale it DOWN? 4 Colours ツ#41429 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Lets think of it this way, assuming you are one of the many others who actually spent years of effort trying to raise an effective team but only to find out that there is this 'op' card out there which is able to do pretty much the same or even better. Also bear in mind this card does not drop easy, it totally depend on luck. So right now, years of effort being beaten by a moment of shear luck, how fair is it to those people? Not to mention this collab might not even come to US but we are still gonna deal with same descends as JP server. 1 esperstron#30102 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Another thing, now that Juggler x7 is a thing, new descends and stuff will be balanced around him/counter against him. When that happens, how will weaker leaders contend with that? Also keep in mind that we (NA) won't get Juggler, but we'll still get the descends with upped difficulty. 0 what about all the stones! Think of the stones! 0 It can be argued that dual heroes (especially dual Pandora), thanks to their row awakenings in ultimate form, can keep a more consistent pace than Juggler. So we probably have something in the heroes, at least, to keep pace with new descents. -1 The only issue is that newer dungeons might come out with mechanics to curb with juggler. And Pandora having quite similar traits to juggler (Dark type, Devil type) might comes to suffer in the process(i.e. Dark absorb abilities from bosses, Devil type restricted dungeon). I run a Pandora team as well, it is just i am having mixed feelings about the game's progression and how it is heading at the moment. -5 By nathan@N17#37737 2 years ago ( 7.8.1 ) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAb9uvnRxk it is i who will have the last laugh while...and don't say i didn't warn you....anubis remains the clear winner. Every one of you can go f......... (; thanks for the debates though 0 -Zer0-#72697 2 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) Dude. Opinions. Some might say Anubis is better, some might say Juggler is better, but this game is very rng based. So you can't really compare these monsters with just some videos. We cold hard facts and stats. besides even if Gung-ho did make a survey on who is better, that mainly proves which card is more favorable. So there really is no way to see who is better, but you know, more favorable. So you may say that Anubis is better, but other people say that the Juggler is better, but as I said, Opinions. (Btw, I like the Anubis better, but I'm just saying, not to team with you or anything.) -19 By laus#61897 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) This post has been flagged as spam Show 4 nEpGeAr#33559 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Anubis also requires the most skill and is much more intensive with setting up the board. This little guy, however, only requires players to count to 6 or so. Not only that, but dark types have a large pool of powerful orb changers and heartmakers, and if you're really feeling OP, orb enhancers and damage multipliers. Anubis is still the hardest hitting, but let's face it, not everyone is going to be able to use him without looking like a complete idiot and blowing stones (wish I could find a certain youtuber who fits this example), so for what this guy requires, he is ridiculously strong. 3 LOL you work in a children's hospital and you go and mock ppl and call them kids or 12 year olds, what a nice person you are. what do you do anyway? pick up the dam phone and refer ppl who is more knowledgeable than you. Well no sh1i7 i see your dumba$$ comments everywhere i go, 90% of pages contain your negative bs just so you can be acknowledged. You bit1ch more than Stan and his wicked ladies. 2 覚醒hotaka#58904 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) and you can't combine two prong or row enhance with anubis teams. this guy can. 2 Gmuni @/r#56995 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Juggler outdamages Anubis. Look at the Numbers. Row enhances plus x49. Why do you think ronia is so strong with her 6.25 multipler? This guy can can do the same row set up 1~2 rows with 5~6 combos and put out 3~5 million per sub. Anubis doesn't even do that consistently and when he does it requires a perfect 10~15 combos. 1 Here's one! Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXT_gf3Qv5yZisVXCEZjOOQ Example video (Sandalphon):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrbRaqfJOk 1 DocTam#54245 2 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) The thing is, that Pandora just blows this whole thing wide open. Juggler/Pandora/Pandora/Joker/???/Juggler has very consistent damage. Stalling becomes the only real concern as you are eliminating heart orbs whenever you nova. But with Juggler + Pandora, whatever boss you are focusing is eating millions of dark damage to the face. 1 Juggler teams have already cleared challenge dungeon 10 without much effort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDsgv7S5ik 0 Wow nEpGeAr is on point, and that video belongs to Nate himself. Who cares about skill, here is his month's rent money. 0 I talk behind a computer? Speak for yourself is it not the same for you too? What is the point in even mentioning that, did i even said i wanted to punch you in the face?? How you know im not like this in person. You dont like it when other ppl assuming about you so dont about me unless you have proof. And what sticker girls, who said they were OP wth you even talking about!? 0 "Lol dude i work in a childrens hospital." What's the suicide and depression rate where you work(ed)? From a college-bound student that seriously considered and attempted suicide as a preteen and has continued to battle with suicidal thoughts daily as a teenager and will go see a doctor to discuss prescription anti-depression medication once in college -1 I work in trauma. Why don't you come find out -2 Exactly. This whole thing (and where you first commented to me being stupid) was up at the top with the guy saying something about sticker girls and somehow has like 20 upvotes even though everybody else in that thread are not even using those examples -3 Lol dude i work in a childrens hospital. Why don't you come on in when your head hurts little buddy? My whole check, you probably don't even get one -3 You're one of those people that talk behind a computer huh? You wouldn't have this big of a mouth in person. Everybody kepts trying to blast on me here because I said a sticker girl team is crap and nobody realizes they are doing the exact same but backwards. Everybody is telling me i have to be right when they are all trying to be right. And still nobody has backed up sticker girls being OP. No they try to twist it to something else -4 You know what i realized, you have some weird fetish with me. Probably the one following all my comments everywhere, how sweet -13 -18 |
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We are peaceful and supportive of all PAD life. We nourish the game with our insight and endless supply of leaders for all our friends to use. We do not complain about what we don't have. We are more concerned about what we can accomplish(because we have almost everything). Unfortunately for some it's hard to understand. I'm sorry for you. But leave us whales alone. We support this game in a way many cannot. It is a privilege and an honor. It would be wonderful if we were rewarded in some way for our contribution. If cards like gadius (which I have) and juggler (which I will have at my first opportunity) are the way to reward us than so be it. Try being friends with one of us and see how much you will complain as you use our hyper maxed, ultra rare and always OP cards. Until then try and show some respect cause without us this game would be very different indeed.
And for what its worth, this is broken not because it does 49x damage, but because it requires ONLY two heart combos. This leader is so painfully easy to activate that it completely makes ra obsolete. The only leaders that were not made less by this being released are unconditional atk/hp/rcv leaders, and both of the anubis uevos. This is why people are upset, because why should they have to match 5 different specific combos inorder to get 5x, when this one gets two specific combos for 7x
Yeah, totally doesn't sound broken to me.
That's what's broken. 7x, that's not broken. About 0.01% of people are going to get that card and they will all be whales and I'm totally happy about that, because maybe they'll pay enough money to fix all the broken connection errors for those of us who are non-IAP.
If you get the one super strong card out of the 2000 or so monsters, good on you! Great. Have fun with it. Get bored of it, then go back to your athena and ronia and pandora teams and have fun again.
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