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8 By Æro#21225 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) It's sad to think how many Nagas die each year to make nagahide. 😢 3 By Dante#55286 7 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) I see a LOT of questions on where to farm Nagas, and it frustrated me as well... Until I made it to Legendary Dragons' Footprints, and I (compared to all other levels with Naga drops) easily max skilled. The drops aren't spectacular, during the week, I might get 3 - 4 a day, 5 - 8 during a weekend, when I'm trying pretty hard at it. I wouldn't waste the stam on earlier dungeons, but that's just my opinion! Get a team that can flatten all of the levels in Legendary Dragons' Footprints, and you will have a MUCH more sane process of skilling up the healer girls (except for Siren, who is easy to skill up with monsters VASTLY more plentiful). 1 By dimpiedots#49404 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Finally got one from Fire Forest Nerva after farming for 2 weeks! So happy :) 0 tant#48398 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) A couple months back when I knew next to nothing about PAD, I got this from the PEM, and thinking it was worthless, I sold it. (Same thing happened with Cupid and some of the Ripper Dragons). I don't think I've ever regretted as much. That ended today, when after farming Serpent Loved by Flame (Hyperion Lava Flow) during the 1.5x drop about 5 times, the boss Echidna finally dropped :) 0 I totally understand. I did the same thing, only I used mine for xp 0 By Hahahahaha#51319 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Caught 3 of this beautiful mermaid thanks to Scarlet Snake Princess =D 0 Eric#50290 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Same! This was an insane drop rate this weekend for me. I got 3 in 7 or 8 tries. 0 By KingStuff#64421 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) I was just thinking to myself today, "I really need an Echidna." I took a stab at Legendary Dragon's Footprints and got this to drop. Now to begin another step towards a strong Fire team without spending money on IAPs. 0 By Bibbo#14085 7 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) If I'm looking to farm Nagas to skill up my Echidna, am I best off farming Flame Snake Woman (Volcano of Vulcan dungeon) for the three Naga chances, or is the drop rate worse in those earlier dungeons? 3 Habib#21407 7 years ago ( 6.3.1 ) Scarlet Snake Princess is coming this weekend (2.22-2.23), I'd suggest saving your stam for now and just heavily farming there 2 Blazing Hell in Legendary Dragons' Footprints.... That's the place, it's pretty far in, but I would rather spend the time and stamina to work on Ranking up, and working on other pets, until I got to a place that wasn't so painfully frustrating to farm. You will have MUCH better luck in Blazing Hell! 0 I am interested in the answer to his question, though. Disregarding limited time dungeons and random machine pulls, what is the best standard dungeon (normal or technical) to try for this monster? Is the drop rate the same for every dungeon for which Naga may appear? If so, logic dictates the least expensive dungeon in terms of stamina would be one's best bet. 0 By SoulWiz#49209 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) got her from pal machine with 2000 pal point roll!!! now have almost complete haku team just needs the snake dungeon to come again for skill lv up.. ( been almost 3 months..should come soon i hope ) 0 By ren#45442 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) i just got 1 on Fire Worshipping Snake Drop x1.5 on 1st try i did it today =) 0 By Eric#50290 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Scarlet Snake princess - EXPERT dungeon has been an amazing drop spot for me. I have got 3 this weekend so far and tried it 7 or 8 times. Best drop chance I have ever had on her. 0 Anon#24960 7 years ago ( 6.5.5 ) Well it's really the only reasonable place to skillup your Echidna anyway. Its droprate may be a lot lower than many would want, but it's still possible to skill up Echidna for a relatively low price if you spam Expert and stamina refills. 0 By S#57222 7 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) Got her from Hyperion Lava Flow - Serpent Loved by Flame on my first run through it. So happy :') 0 By Puppy#47341 7 years ago ( 7.2.2 ) Didn't even try to get her, but she dropped in Hyperion lava flow with plus health. All I was trying to do was advance through the game! 0 Dante#55286 7 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) You got very lucky, and congrats on that, she makes a lot of simple farming much, MUCH, MUUCCHHH more brainless, as you evo her up! 0 By ŞŦΔŘĐΔŦ€#64330 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Just got a naga tonight. Also have an Echidna, and Crimson Lotus. I think I'll just keep them for now until I have enough for skill ups. Edit. I just got six more, but I've been looking around for pad skill - up info to no avail. In the past, if I had a lot of skill ip fodder, I would use them one at a time. Seems to work best as I feel that using multiple mosters at once seems to have little or no benefit. Does anyone know if using naga works at skill up crimson lotus echidna, or is it for just Echidna? Like I stated earlier, I can't find any info on skilling-up monsters. Last edited by ŞŦΔŘĐΔŦ€ 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) 1 •LXSVD•#56659 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) Simply put, any two monsters with the EXACT same skills will be skill ups. As long as the skill is the same, name and all (i.e. Menace) Last edited by •LXSVD• 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) -4 SubStrips#60995 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) the info you seek is right on this very page up top...btw...you smell that...yeah that's the smell of 20 runs and obtaining 14 nagas while eating egg salad sandwhiches for dinner and ripping a slightly but heated bomb from my hole....mmmm fart!!! now i got nagas to feed and run a team of 4 echidna and a fully awoken green odin..neverending delay son boooyah 0 By Nibelhim#75343 6 years ago ( 8.0.1 ) .... Just got 5 of them in 1 snake run... i was like ooh. so lucky, got it on first wave... then second wave... then third.. then fourth... then boss and i was like... wtf?? 0 By Michael#70170 6 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) How do you get naga?? I ran Legendary Dragon Footprints - Blazing Hell almost 15 times and still haven't got one!! 0 By KnitCupcke#77218 6 years ago ( 8.0.4 ) I just got one from the PAL Machine!!!!!!!!!! I was hoping for evo materials but this is soooooo much better :D 0 By HKREM@/r#80122 6 years ago ( 8.1.1 ) 0/10 skillups on a x2 scarlet snake princess day. Even on the best day for her to drop RNGsus says not today. I feel like the only person without a max skilled echidna -___- 0 By Jennifer#8528 6 years ago ( 8.4.1 ) Just did CHRISTMAS Dungeon and 3 of these dropped!!! I waited for ever to get her (I'm level 153) and 3 drop at once!!! Crazy how that works!!! 0 By CurryRice#87893 5 years ago ( 8.6.2 ) Got one when I was a newbie and ended up selling it... Now that I am looking one none drop.... OTZ 0 By Rayn#89098 5 years ago ( 8.7.0 ) I just pulled her on my first try in Hyperion Lava Flow, so I'm pretty hyped. Now on to Siren. 0 By 1ColdFalkN#91971 5 years ago ( 9.0.3 ) Have I missed something in threads? I was looking for whay you use her for... pls help? Ty 0 By Brenden#100376 4 years ago ( 11.1.1 ) anyone know when the next special dungeon for Naga will be out? need one for ALL MY TEAMS LOL. 0 By GenjitsuTy#103422 2 months ago ( 18.4.0 ) The best farming place for this is Jormungandr Descended, -1 By NoremaC150#72664 6 years ago ( 7.5 ) Hey guys/girls, I have a Tamadra or a Dub-mythlit I would be willing to trade for one of these!! ....oh wait..... #gunghopleaseaddtrades -1 By SubStrips#60995 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) mmmmm that smell....the smell is around you...14 nagas later and you know what...i just farted -2 By Rouch#65398 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) Is she really that hard to get? I guess I lucked out since she was my first monster from the rare egg machine from when I started out. 0 buttz#56328 6 years ago ( 7.2.3 ) She is super easy to get now that coin dungeons are a thing, especially with the supposed upcoming price slice for her dungeon. (500k to 250k) -3 By Mizraim#35774 7 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Anyone willing to trade Naga for Archangel Lucifer? Yes, I'm Rank 20, and yes I still have my Trade. I have two Lucifers and I'm trying to get Naga's Ultimate. Last edited by Mizraim 7 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) 3 I guess I misunderstood the 'present' system... and I got taken advantage of. 1 *facepalm* Sorry if I sounded like an axe but it's NOT a possibility. I'm guessing Mizraim interpreted the present system incorrectly. It does NOT allow you to gift a monster of your choosing to a friend; it allows both of you to roll a special egg machine. The machine only gives out starters and present eggs (from what I remember) and the roll is guaranteed to have 3 + values stacked on it. Also, while the game says you can only gift once, you CAN gift more than once; Gungho occasionally allows players to gift again now and then. 0 Matt#39727 7 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) What is this trade you speak of? I'll give you Naga for Lucifer! Last edited by Matt 7 years ago ( 6.4.4 ) 0 How will I know if we can "gift" again??? 0 You will only know if you see the option one day after having already gifted. It will probably be long after you sent your first gift however. 0 ImDumb#71530 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) This is probably the best proposed trade I've ever seen. Let's trade my noob-friendly 5 star for your 3 star! -4 By o 3 o#14945 7 years ago ( 6.1.1 ) STOP APPEARING IN MY RARE EGG PULLS. 4 What I would give for a naga, I mean, just about everyone has one and I have no luck. 0 SquidKid#46039 7 years ago ( 6.4.5 ) You shouldnt be upset, final and ultimate evolutions seem pretty great based on what ive seen. 0 epharian#68164 6 years ago ( 7.3.0 ) As a DQXQ user, nearly ALL of the builds for descended dungeons require echidna. I need this so bad, yet so far I have yet to get one. If you have one KEEP IT. -4 By Hieu Sky#38901 7 years ago ( 6.4.3 ) Just keep trying in Volcano of Vulcan / Flame Snake Woman, but at boss, kill one at a time, this will increase drop rate, this how i got Naga, and mermaid 0 Anon#24960 7 years ago ( 6.5.2 ) Drop rates are predetermined upon entering a dungeon. You might as well speedrun the whole thing if you want a Naga faster. |
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(m) = main encounter
(s) = sub encounter
Assumptions for calculations:
Stam = 100
Drop rate = 2% = .02 (unless otherwise stated)
Normal dungeons:
A) 3 naga(m) @ 5 stam : Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman
B) 1 naga(m) @ 7 stam : Fire Forest Nerva/Fire-Worshiping Snake
C) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Castle of Satan/Witches Ball - Bonus: 1 Lilith(m)
D) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Tower of Flare/Dance of Flame and Light - Bonus: 1 Cupid(m)
E) 1 naga(m) @ 9 stam : Tower of Nature/Great Wheel of Fire - Bonus: 1 Dryad(m)
F) 2 naga(m/s) @ 10 stam : Hyperion Lava Flow/Serpent Loved by Flame (One sub, one main encounter)
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 5% (.05) drop rate being higher tier
G) 1 naga(m) @ 13 stam : Vest Cave/Underground Fire Lake - Bonus: 1 Dryad(s) & 1 Siren(s)
H) 1 naga(s) @ 13 stam : Frozen Soil of Prosell/Frozen Castle - Bonus: 1 Dryad(s) & 1 Siren(m)
I) 1 naga(s) @ 13 stam : Mars Crater/Shooting Star Woods - Bonus: 1 Siren(s) & 1 Dryad(m)
J) 1 naga(s) @ 14 stam : Jupiter, City in the sky/Claw of Judgement - Bonus: 1 Lilith(s) & 1 Cupid(m)
Special Dungeon:
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 5% (.05) drop rate for being a special Int/Novice and assuming an average of one trash mob
K) ~3 naga(m) @ 15 stam : Scarlet Snake Princess(Int/Novice)
***Note: The following main encounters will be assumed to be 15% (.15) drop rate being Expert and assuming an average of one trash mob
L) ~3 naga(m) @ 15 stam : Scarlet Snake Princess(Expert)
Monday's drop rate increases of x1.5
Fire Forest Nerva
Hyperion Lava Flow
Vesta Cave
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Basic Normal:
A) Probability in one run: (3 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^3) = .0588 or 5.88%
Stam use: (100/5) = 20 = 20 runs
probability: (20 independent .0588 events) = 1 - (.9412^20) = .7018 = a 70.18% chance of getting one naga drop
B) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/7) = 14.29 = 14 runs
probability: (14 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^14) = .2464 = a 24.64% chance of getting one naga drop
C) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
D) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
E) Probability in one run: (1 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98) = .02 or 2%
Stam use: (100/9) = 11.11 = 11 runs
probability: (11 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^11) = .1993 = a 19.93% chance of getting one naga drop
F) Probability in one run: (2 independent .02 events) = 1 - (.98^2) = .0396 or 3.96%
Stam use: (100/10) = 10 = 10 runs
probability: (10 independent .0396 events) = 1 - (.9604^10) = .3324 = a 33.24% chance of getting one naga drop
G) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95^7) = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
H) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95^7) = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
I) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95^7) =.3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
J) Probability in one run: (1 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95) = .05 or 5%
Stam use: (100/14) = 7.14 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95^7) = .3324 = .3016 = a 30.16% chance of getting one naga drop
Monday Bonus Normal
(.02 X 1.5)=.03 ; (.05 X 1.5)=.075
B) Probability in one run: (1 independent .03 events) = 1 - (.97) = .03 or 3%
Stam use: (100/7) = 14.29 = 14 runs
probability: (14 independent .03 events) = 1 - (.97^14) = .3472 = a 34.71% chance of getting one naga drop
F) Probability in one run: (2 independent .03 events) = 1 - (.97^2) = .0591 or 5.91%
Stam use: (100/10) = 10 = 10 runs
probability: (10 independent .0591 events) = 1 - (.9409^10) = .4562 = a 45.62% chance of getting one naga drop
G) Probability in one run: (1 independent .075 events) = 1 - (.925) = .075 or 7.5%
Stam use: (100/13) = 7.69 = 7 runs
probability: (7 independent .075 events) = 1 - (.925^7) = .4206 = a 42.06% chance of getting one naga drop
Special:
K) Probability in one run: (3 independent .05 events) = 1 - (.95^3) = .1426 or 14.26%
Stam use: (100/15) = 6.67 = 6 runs
probability: (6 independent .1426 events) = 1 - (.8574^6) = .6027 = a 60.27% chance of getting one naga drop
L) Probability in one run: (3 independent .15 events) = 1 - (.85^3) = .3859 or 38.59%
Stam use: (100/15) = 6.67 = 6 runs
probability: (6 independent .3859 events) = 1 - (.6141^6) = .4206 = a 94.64% chance of getting one naga drop
If all assumptions are correct, and without adjusting for individual stamina, then:
The best way to farm the naga is in the special dungeon - Scarlet Snake Princess(Expert)
Alternatively, the best way to farm the naga is in the regular dungeon - Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman (Even over other dungeons with the x 1.5 drop rate of other dungeons, and over Scarlet Snake Princess Int/Novice)
I am so thankful for people like you. You have done the hard work that I just could never have done.
3 nagas on flame snake woman does not mean that each of them has 0.02 chance. I believe the boss room itself has 0.02 of generating a drop, and after that it will pick one of the monsters there, and in this case, all of them are the same monster. So total 0.02 for the room to drop an egg.
I don't have evidence for this claim but it seems consistence with my and others' experience. Not only in this dungeon but for any boss stage.
However... I have been trying to farm Naga, and I have been keeping track of how many runs and how many naga have dropped... and Volcano of Vulcan/Flame Snake Woman is not looking so good. I am at 543 runs and no naga's yet. I figured I would hit 600 then start farming a different dungeon, and I will focus on one that has only one naga at an assumed to be higher drop rate and see how that works. Nothing like actual sample data when you are given no real rate data.
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=800
All the healer girls are here. After a year, I never got a cupid, until I found barrage and now I have a few in just a handful of runs and I'm skilling up my lilith. I'm going to max my menace soon. It's 30 stam, but you get lots of coins and 14k exp, and it's easy to clear without much stalling even. The rippers drop a lot too. My new favorite dungeon.
So it is not 3 * .02... but rather.
.98% of not getting one.
.98 * .98 * .98 of not
not getting one on floor altogether = not getting one on first AND not getting one on second, AND not getting one on third. (multiply those probabilities).
=.941192, or 94.12% you don't get one on any of the three.
chance you DO get one is = 1 - .941192 = 5.9808%
Which almost about the same.. as 3 * .02, oh well.